[Podcast #354] Working Parents and Homeschooling
Can you really homeschool well while also holding down a job? Yes, but the answer may require us to rethink when, where, and how learning happens.
With Brave Writer president Dawn Smith joining us, we explore:
- flexible schedules,
- morning meetings,
- night schooling,
- body doubling,
- buddy reading,
- planning from behind,
- and the art of “triangling in” support.
We also look at why homeschool doesn’t need to imitate a nine-to-three school day and how ordinary moments, from breakfast to dishwashing, can become rich opportunities for connection and learning.
Come discover how work and homeschool can fit into the same family tapestry.
Show Notes
For many families, paid employment, caregiving, freelance work, and other responsibilities don’t disappear simply because we’ve chosen to educate our children at home. The good news is that homeschooling gives us something conventional school schedules don’t always offer: flexibility.
The first shift is to stop imagining homeschool as a miniature school day running from morning until mid-afternoon. Most families don’t need six hours of direct instruction. In a classroom, many minutes are devoted to transitions, classroom management, passing out materials, moving between rooms, and waiting for a group. At home, a focused block of explicit instruction can accomplish a great deal in much less time.
That leaves us free to ask a better question: Where are the pockets of time that actually work for our family?
Maybe we read biographies over breakfast. Maybe math happens before a morning meeting. Maybe history gets a leisurely Saturday afternoon. A teen who does her clearest thinking at night might do “night school” with us after dinner. Science could become a summer deep dive instead of appearing in thirty-minute increments five days a week.
Learning can also weave itself through the parts of family life that don’t look much like school.
Try planning from behind.
A conversation about a novel while washing dishes counts. So does listening to Latin vocabulary on the drive to piano lessons. When our children tell us about the books they’re reading, they are organizing ideas, remembering details, and making meaning. When we look back and notice those experiences, we’re planning from behind, giving them the credit they deserve.
Work schedules can become more flexible too.
Some of us do our best concentration work before the kids wake up. Others need a protected afternoon block while a partner takes over. When children are old enough, independent project time can create room for work. A child might even share our workspace, quietly drawing, reading, or building LEGO while we work beside them. That kind of “body doubling” can satisfy a child’s desire for proximity without requiring our constant participation.
We also don’t have to do all of this alone.
A spouse, mother’s helper, grandparent, tutor, online class, homeschool friend, or childcare provider can become another point of support. We sometimes call this triangling in help. For a parent who works full time outside the home, that support may be essential rather than optional.
And yes, there will be trade-offs. We might work from the corner of the library while our kids attend an activity instead of chatting with the other parents. We might say no to an outing because our work block matters too.
The goal isn’t perfect “balance.”
Family life rarely distributes itself into neat, equal portions.
Instead, imagine a tapestry. Work, appointments, activities, and responsibilities form part of the structure. Learning threads its way through all of them. The pattern changes as our children grow, our work changes, and new needs emerge.
We aren’t trying to preserve one perfect homeschool schedule forever. We’re creating a family culture flexible enough to change with us.
Resources
- Registration is open now for Registration is open now for Playing with Poetry: Discovery and many other Brave Writer classes!
- Check out the special offer at Talkbox.MOM/brave and start speaking a new language with your kids from day one!
- Start a free trial of CTCmath.com to try the math program that’s sure to grab and keep your child’s attention
- If you’ve ever thought of trying out online music lessons, now is the time! Claim your free Maestro Music lessons at Maestromusic Free Music Lessons for Brave Writer Families | Maestro Music.
- Find our favorite readalouds and nonfiction in the Brave Writer Book Shop
- Visit Julie’s Substack to find her special podcast for kids (and a lot more!)
- Purchase Julie’s new book, Help! My Kid Hates Writing
- Melissa’s books make great readalouds—and there are Darts for The Prairie Thief and The Nerviest Girl in the World.
- Find community at the Brave Learner Home
- Learn more about the Brave Writer Literature & Mechanics programs
- Subscribe to Julie’s Substack newsletters, Brave Learning with Julie Bogart and Julie Off Topic, and Melissa’s Catalog of Enthusiasms
- Sign up for our Text Message Pod Ring to get podcast updates and more!
- Send us podcast topic ideas by texting us: +1 (833) 947-3684
- Interested in advertising with us? Reach out to media@bravewriter.com
Connect with Julie
- Instagram: @juliebogartwriter
- Threads: @juliebogartwriter
- Bluesky: @bravewriter.com
- Facebook: facebook.com/bravewriter
Connect with Melissa
- Website: melissawiley.com
- Substack: melissawiley.substack.com
- Instagram: @melissawileybooks
- Bluesky: @melissawiley.bsky.social
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[Podcast #353] Only Connect: The Power of Partnership in Homeschooling
What changes when we stop treating homeschooling as something we do to our children and begin learning alongside them?
Connection is at the heart of meaningful education: connection to ourselves, to the subjects we study, and to one another.
On today’s Brave Writer podcast episode, we explore:
- how curiosity leads to purpose,
- why collaboration matters more than perfect independence,
- and how low-stakes practice can help children build confidence without turning every lesson into an evaluation.
From fractions and cookies to grammar, handwriting, games, and writing revision, we look at practical ways to turn abstract academics into learning that feels useful and alive.
Join us and discover what can happen when we trade coercion for connection.
Show Notes
Only Connect: Why Partnership Changes the Way Children Learn
What are you learning right now?
Maybe you’ve taken up gardening, crochet, breadmaking, chess, painting, or a new language. Think for a moment about how you went about learning it. Chances are, nobody assigned it to you. You became curious. You found a reason to care. You searched for a book, video, teacher, class, friend, or expert who could help.
In other words, you didn’t learn alone.
That experience offers us an important clue about homeschooling. Learning is deeply connected to curiosity, purpose, and other people. Yet we can easily expect something very different from our children. We hand them a worksheet, explain the instructions, and hope that eventually they’ll become “independent learners.”
But complete independence isn’t really how human beings learn.
Collaboration Is Not a Failure of Independence
When something is easy and familiar, children often enjoy doing it on their own. A child may happily bake cookies without help, read an entire fantasy series independently, or settle into a comfortable copywork routine.
Then fractions get harder. Grammar feels baffling. The next writing assignment seems impossible.
That’s exactly when collaboration matters most.
Our children know more than we do about what captures their interest. We know more about how to find resources, break skills into manageable pieces, locate experts, or make connections they haven’t noticed yet. And there are plenty of things neither of us knows. Those become opportunities to learn together.
This is one of homeschooling’s great advantages.
Make the Abstract Concrete
School subjects are often abstract. Children are gloriously literal.
Instead of starting with the definition of a verb, imagine encountering the word splattered in a story. We can say it aloud. Splat. We can notice how the word sounds like the action. Maybe we even drop something and listen.
Suddenly we have an experience.
Now terms like verb and onomatopoeia have something to attach themselves to.
The same thing happens when fractions show up in a cookie recipe, geometry appears in a sewing project, or writing becomes necessary for a role-playing game. We haven’t abandoned academics. We’ve given those academics a reason to matter.
Skills Before Results
This principle is especially important in writing.
When a child hands us a page, our eyes can immediately find every misspelling, missing comma, awkward sentence, and misplaced apostrophe. But correcting everything mostly demonstrates what we know.
Instead, we can ask: What skill is this child actually practicing?
Maybe they know capital letters and end punctuation. Great. Let’s ask them to edit for those things. Maybe apostrophes are brand new. Let’s give them low-stakes opportunities to experiment with apostrophes without holding them responsible for conventions they haven’t learned yet.
The writing then becomes information. It shows us what to practice next. It doesn’t become a referendum on the child’s ability.
We are growing skills, not demanding polished results.
Let Connection Lead
When resistance appears, more pressure is rarely our only option.
We can become curious instead. What would make this meaningful? Where does this skill already exist in the child’s life? Could we do it together? Could we lower the stakes? Could we experiment? Could we connect the idea to a story, tool, game, question, community, or purpose the child already values?
Home education gives us time to ask those questions.
We get to accompany our children down the path of learning, sometimes leading and sometimes following, always paying attention to where they actually are.
Only connect.
That may be the whole job.
Resources
- Registration is open now for Playing with Poetry: Discovery and many other Brave Writer classes!
- Visit bravewriter.com/handwriting for our free handwriting and copywork printable!
- Check out the special offer at Talkbox.MOM/brave and start speaking a new language with your kids from day one!
- Start a free trial of CTCmath.com to try the math program that’s sure to grab and keep your child’s attention
- If you’ve ever thought of trying out online music lessons, now is the time! Claim your free Maestro Music lessons at Maestromusic Free Music Lessons for Brave Writer Families | Maestro Music.
- Find our favorite readalouds and nonfiction in the Brave Writer Book Shop
- Visit Julie’s Substack to find her special podcast for kids (and a lot more!)
- Purchase Julie’s new book, Help! My Kid Hates Writing
- Find community at the Brave Learner Home
- Learn more about the Brave Writer Literature & Mechanics programs
- Subscribe to Julie’s Substack newsletters, Brave Learning with Julie Bogart and Julie Off Topic, and Melissa’s Catalog of Enthusiasms
- Sign up for our Text Message Pod Ring to get podcast updates and more!
- Send us podcast topic ideas by texting us: +1 (833) 947-3684
- Interested in advertising with us? Reach out to media@bravewriter.com
Connect with Julie
- Instagram: @juliebogartwriter
- Threads: @juliebogartwriter
- Bluesky: @bravewriter.com
- Facebook: facebook.com/bravewriter
Connect with Melissa
- Website: melissawiley.com
- Substack: melissawiley.substack.com
- Instagram: @melissawileybooks
- Bluesky: @melissawiley.bsky.social
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