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[Podcast #344] Courageous Divorce: An Interview with Alisha Roth

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What happens when faith, prayer, endurance, and every “right” effort still do not make a marriage safe?

In this brave and deeply honest conversation, we talk with Alisha Roth, author of Courageous Divorce, about young marriage, religious expectations, abuse, motherhood, homeschooling, community loss, and the difficult clarity that can come when a woman finally listens to her own body and life.

Alisha Roth
Alisha Roth

Together, we explore divorce not as failure, but as a serious boundary, sometimes the one that makes healing, safety, forgiveness, and a more honest future possible.

Listen in for a tender conversation about faith, courage, and choosing to truly live.

Show Notes

When Divorce Becomes a Boundary

What happens when you do all the “right” things and the relationship still isn’t safe?

You pray. You read the books. You go to counseling. You choose your words carefully. You try to be patient, forgiving, generous, faithful. You tell yourself that every marriage is hard. You remind yourself that your children need a family. You try again.

And then one day, your body tells the truth before your mind can bear to.

We’ve heard from so many women who know this story from the inside. They were raised to believe that marriage was a sacred container, that endurance was maturity, that self-sacrifice was love, and that divorce represented failure. For women formed by religious communities, the pressure can be even stronger. Stay. Submit. Forgive. Pray harder. Protect the marriage. Protect the family. Protect the story everyone else wants to believe.

But what protects the woman?

That question matters.

A marriage cannot be healed by one person’s devotion alone. No amount of careful language, spiritual discipline, emotional labor, or maternal effort can make an unsafe relationship safe if the other person refuses accountability. A woman can contort herself for years trying to become gentle enough, quiet enough, faithful enough, forgiving enough, only to discover that the problem was never her lack of effort.

Sometimes the most honest act is to stop pretending that endurance is the same as health.

Divorce is often described as an ending, and of course it is. It changes homes, finances, friendships, holidays, family rhythms, and the story you thought you were living. It can bring grief, confusion, fear, and loneliness. It can expose how fragile some communities are when a woman tells the truth about her life.

But divorce can also be a boundary.

A strong one. A serious one. A boundary that says: this level of intimacy is not safe. This arrangement is not healthy. This proximity is causing harm. Something has to change.

That framing can be clarifying. A boundary is not revenge. It is not bitterness. It is not a refusal to forgive. A boundary names reality. It creates distance where distance is needed. It may even make compassion more possible because the person who was being harmed is no longer trapped inside the harm.

For mothers, the decision can feel especially agonizing. We may worry about what divorce will do to our children. We may fear losing the life we built around homeschooling, shared meals, read-alouds, rhythms, and traditions. We may wonder whether choosing our own safety means taking something precious away from them.

But children are not only shaped by the presence of two parents in one house. They are shaped by the emotional weather of that house. They are shaped by what gets excused, what gets hidden, what gets normalized, and what gets named.

A mother who chooses truth, safety, and health is teaching something too.

Life after divorce may not look like the life you imagined. It may require creativity. Homeschooling may change shape. Parenting schedules may require flexibility. Holidays may need new traditions. Community may have to be rebuilt from the ground up.

And still, there can be life there.

There can be sleep. There can be laughter. There can be a quiet home. There can be children who adapt. There can be women friends who let you tell the whole truth. There can be work, travel, dating, solitude, courage, and a new relationship with your own body and inner knowing.

There can be a future you did not know you were allowed to want.

The work is not easy, and no one can make the decision for another woman. There are consequences to staying and consequences to leaving. Each person has to reckon with her own life, her own children, her own safety, her own faith, her own truth.

But we want to say this clearly: your well-being matters. Your body matters. Your fear matters. Your clarity matters. Your life is not merely the support structure for someone else’s story.

You are allowed to live.

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[Podcast #343] Partnership Writing with Dawn Smith

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Why teach writing when AI can generate paragraphs in seconds? 

In this Brave Writer podcast episode, Melissa Wiley talks with Brave Writer president, Dawn Smith, about why writing still matters, maybe more than ever. Together, they explore writing as a tool for thinking, voice, discovery, and connection.

We look at:

  • how kids develop their own style,
  • why pre-writing conversations are part of the writing process,
  • and how partnership writing helps children bridge the gap between ideas and words on the page.

Plus, Dawn shares what’s new with Partnership Writing and how families can pair projects with Darts for a rich month of learning.

Tune in and reconnect with the deeply human work of writing.

Show Notes

Have you ever watched an AI tool spit out a tidy paragraph in seconds and felt a little wobble in your confidence?

There it is: grammatically correct, decently organized, maybe even sprinkled with a few impressive words. Your teen looks at it. You look at it. The question hangs in the air.

Why should anyone bother learning to write anymore?

We understand the panic.

If writing is only about producing a clean final product, AI seems like a shortcut. It can draft the essay, polish the sentence, summarize the book, suggest the thesis, and smooth out the grammar.

But writing is not only the product.

Writing is thinking.

And our kids still need to think.

AI Can Generate Text. Humans Generate Meaning.

Generative AI works from patterns. It predicts what word is likely to come next based on what it has absorbed from human writing.

That can be useful. It can also be flattening.

AI does not know your child’s inside jokes, favorite books, odd fascinations, family conversations, sharp opinions, or private questions. It does not remember the movie that made them cry, the argument they had in the car, the frog they found in the creek, or the sentence in a novel that made them sit up straighter.

All of that becomes part of a child’s writing voice.

A human mind is a mosaic. Every conversation, book, memory, game, movie, and relationship adds another tile. When children write, that mosaic begins to show itself on the page.

That is what we are protecting.

Writing Helps Kids Discover Their Thoughts

Sometimes we imagine writing this way: first you have an idea, then you write it down.

But often, the writing comes first.

A child starts with a half-formed thought. They talk it through. They try a sentence. They cross it out. They say, “That’s not what I mean.” They try again. Suddenly, something clicks.

Now they know what they think.

That moment matters.

It is easy to miss because it does not always look efficient. It may look like wandering. It may sound like rambling. It may involve long pauses, snacks, frustration, or a walk around the block.

But underneath the mess, the mind is organizing itself.

When we rush too quickly to the finished paragraph, we can rob children of the very process that helps them grow.

Voice Is Worth Developing

One of the quiet dangers of writing tools is that they can make every child sound the same.

The quirky phrase gets replaced. The joke disappears. The sentence that sounded exactly like your child is “improved” into something bland but acceptable.

We do want children to learn conventions. Commas matter. Spelling matters. Clarity matters.

But conventions are tools, not the whole house.

Punctuation can create suspense. Sentence fragments can add punch. A surprising word choice can reveal personality. Dialogue can carry character. Even academic writing benefits from a mind alive behind the argument.

We are not teaching children to obey grammar for its own sake.

We are helping them use language with power.

Partnership Is Part of the Process

Children do not need to face the blank page alone.

In Brave Writer, we value partnership because writing asks a lot of a developing brain. A child may be generating ideas, remembering letter formation, spelling words, organizing thoughts, managing emotions, and trying to sound smart all at once.

That is too much.

So we partner.

We jot down their words. We talk before writing. We ask questions. We help them remember the wonderful thing they said five minutes ago. We read examples from books. We fill their cup with language before asking them to pour anything out.

This does not make the writing less theirs.

It makes writing possible.

Professional writers do this too. They talk ideas through with friends. They send drafts to editors. They revise after feedback. They pace, delete, complain, and try again.

Writing has never been a magical solo performance.

It is a process.

Give Kids Something to Say

A child who has nothing to say will struggle to write.

That does not mean they are lazy. It may mean they need more before-writing life.

Read the novel. Watch the documentary. Build the model. Play the game. Visit the creek. Talk about the character. Argue about the ending. Make the comparison. Follow the rabbit trail.

Then write.

When children have lived with a topic, language becomes available. They have images, opinions, questions, and connections. The blank page is no longer empty. It has roots underneath it.

This is why deep dives matter. A month with one good book can lead to mechanics, literary devices, history, science, art, narration, discussion, and original writing.

The parts are there.

We simply slow down enough to notice them.

Friction Is Not Failure

Writing can be hard.

That does not mean something has gone wrong.

There is often a struggle phase before flow. The child bumps against the limits of what they can currently do. They feel the discomfort of effort. They may need a break, a snack, a walk, or a good cry.

When the tears come, the lesson’s done.

But the learning is not over forever. We return later with more support, more language, more patience, and a smaller next step.

This is how cognitive stamina grows.

Not through pressure. Not through panic. Through supported practice over time.

AI Does Not Change What Children Need

Our kids are growing up in a world of instant text, endless content, and shrinking attention spans. That makes the slow work of writing even more valuable.

They need:

  • chances to sit with an idea,
  • to hear their own voices,
  • to revise without shame,
  • to know that even published authors produce messy drafts,
  • and to experience the satisfaction of discovering a thought that did not exist before they began writing.

AI may have a place as a tool. But it cannot replace the human work of making meaning.

So yes, we still teach writing.

Not because the world needs more perfect five-paragraph essays.

Because our children need access to their own minds.

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  • Start a free trial of CTCmath.com to try the math program that’s sure to grab and keep your child’s attention
  • Subscribe to Julie’s Substack newsletters, Brave Learning with Julie Bogart and Julie Off Topic, and Melissa’s Catalog of Enthusiasms
  • Sign up for our Text Message Pod Ring to get podcast updates and more!
  • Send us podcast topic ideas by texting us: +1 (833) 947-3684
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  • Bluesky: @melissawiley.bsky.social

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[Podcast #342] Brave Learning and Academics

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What if academic standards didn’t have to threaten your homeschool rhythm? 

In this Brave Writer podcast episode, we explore how to translate grade-level expectations into the rich, lived learning already happening in your home. From Poetry Teatime to bird watching, baking, narration, read-alouds, and everyday conversations, we look at how whole experiences often contain the very skills listed in scope-and-sequence documents. Rather than turning homeschool into school-at-home, we can use standards as information, not intimidation. 

Join us as we make peace with checklists, protect our children’s investment in learning, and celebrate the evidence already unfolding in daily life.

Show Notes

When Academic Standards Make You Panic

Have you ever looked at a list of grade-level standards and felt your shoulders climb toward your ears?

There they are: the skills your child is supposed to master, the content they are supposed to know, the sequence they are supposed to follow. The language sounds official. The list looks long. Suddenly, the cozy read-alouds, the nature walks, the poetry, the baking, the big conversations in the car all seem suspiciously unmeasurable.

We know that feeling.

Academic standards can be useful. They can remind us of topics we may not have touched yet. They can help us translate our homeschool life for charter schools, portfolio reviews, or state requirements. They can even offer reassurance.

But standards are not the same thing as learning.

Learning Is Not a Checklist

A checklist can be helpful when we are cleaning a bathroom. Wipe the sink. Scrub the tub. Empty the trash. Done.

Children do not learn like bathrooms get cleaned.

A child’s mind is not a collection of unfinished chores. Learning grows through curiosity, connection, repetition, surprise, appetite, and investment. A child who cares about measuring the distance from the front door to the mailbox may absorb measurement more deeply than a child forced through a worksheet before breakfast.

That does not mean we ignore standards. It means we refuse to let them become the boss of the homeschool.

Start with the Whole

Many academic standards are written as parts: identify punctuation, answer who/what/where questions, compare units of measurement, explain historical groups, recognize spelling patterns.

But homeschool life often begins with the whole.

A child who listens to read-alouds, narrates stories, laughs over poems, writes notes, plays games, bakes muffins, tracks birds, builds with Legos, and asks questions about history is already living inside a web of academic skills.

Poetry Teatime may include rhythm, vocabulary, punctuation, oral reading, interpretation, and literary language. A bird-watching habit may include observation, classification, migration, habitat, animal behavior, geography, data collection, and narration. Baking may include fractions, sequencing, measurement, chemistry, and patience.

The parts are there. We simply learn to notice them.

Plan from Behind

This is where documentation becomes our friend.

Instead of beginning every week with a fear-based list of what must be forced into the day, we can observe what actually happens and give it credit. Write it down. Save the dated freewrite. Take a photo of the Lego measurement experiment. Jot a note about the conversation in the car where your child compared snow and hail.

A simple binder can become a record of a rich learning life. Divide it by subject. Add dated work samples, notes, drawings, narrations, lists, maps, and projects. Over time, you will see evidence accumulate.

Not because you manufactured school.

Because you honored learning.

Use Standards as Information

Sometimes a standards list will reveal a gap. Maybe you realize you have spent years delighting in nature study and have barely touched electricity. Wonderful. That is not failure. That is information.

Visit the library. Pull books from the children’s nonfiction shelves. Watch a documentary. Try an experiment. Follow curiosity until the topic has a little life in it.

The goal is not to force-feed a child a meal they did not ask for. The goal is to create appetite.

Investment Changes Everything

Children learn more readily when they have a reason to care. The reluctant writer may suddenly produce a persuasive essay when a video game system is on the line. The child uninterested in French may become curious through maps of Paris, French films, music, podcasts, or a beloved character who speaks the language.

Standards get hit when children are invested.

That is the heart of Brave Writer-style learning. We do not have to choose between academic growth and a meaningful homeschool life. We can understand the standards, translate the language, document the learning, and still protect the wonder.

Homeschooling does not have to become school-at-home.

We can begin with life, then notice all the learning already there.

Resources

  • Catch the replays of our free Brave Writer training webinars
  • Shop our June sale!
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  • Order your copy of The Brave Learner from the Brave Writer Book Shop
  • Brave Writer class registration is open! 
  • Visit Julie’s Substack to find her special podcast for kids (and a lot more!) 
  • Purchase Julie’s new book, Help! My Kid Hates Writing
  • Find community at the Brave Learner Home 
  • Learn more about the Brave Writer Literature & Mechanics programs
  • Start a free trial of CTCmath.com to try the math program that’s sure to grab and keep your child’s attention
  • Subscribe to Julie’s Substack newsletters, Brave Learning with Julie Bogart and Julie Off Topic, and Melissa’s Catalog of Enthusiasms
  • Sign up for our Text Message Pod Ring to get podcast updates and more!
  • Send us podcast topic ideas by texting us: +1 (833) 947-3684
  • Interested in advertising with us? Reach out to media@bravewriter.com

Connect with Julie

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Connect with Melissa

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  • Substack: melissawiley.substack.com
  • Instagram: @melissawileybooks
  • Bluesky: @melissawiley.bsky.social

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