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Reluctant Revisers

Reluctant Revisers

Julie-
I am posting here in response to the “Brave Revising” email, you sent out.

I am wondering about reluctant revisers. My 12 year old daughter will free write beautifully and willingly , but resists my input on revising. I feel like I am judging her work when I do offer suggestions.

I am considering taking the revising course, but would love to hear what you have to say about gently and effectively revising.
Thanks.
Anne

Great question Anne!

Revising, for most kids, feels like criticism. They take it personally when errors are found in their writing. Yet find them we do and we can’t very well ignore glaring mistakes in punctuation or grammar, don’t want to overlook the opportunity to encourage more details or facts.

So let’s start with the philosophy of revision so that you can rethink how you might go about fostering a safe space for it:

Revision is not the same as mopping up the mechanics. Editing is the final step in a paper and that’s when your eyes get to be really picky about what they see. That final step means going over the typing (or handwriting) with a fine-toothed comb, looking for errors to clean up right at the last minute. The content will stay as it is.

Revision, on the other hand, is about reshaping the original piece. Its focus is the content and how to narrow vague ideas, how to expand poorly developed ones, how to reorganize the piece to flow with more power and so on.

Most of the time, the mistake we parents make is that we move from draft to editing in one step. Or we might move to revising and editing at the same time. When a child risks writing and shares content with you, if the first thing you notice is the misspelled word, the child literally feels insulted and hurt (like you missed the point!). Let me give you an example of how it feels:

What if you had dolled yourself up for an evening out with your husband: new hair style, brand new shoes, glittery top, slinky pants… and when you appeared in the room, he said, “Aren’t you going to wear the earrings I bought you?” or worse, “You’ve got lipstick on your teeth.” Rather than being bowled over by the original impact of your overall look, he notices first thing what you didn’t wear or he points out the one mistake in the look (something that could easily be corrected moments later after he tells you how amazing you look).

If he had simply expressed his amazement at how great you looked first, you’d probably be more than happy to consider adding his earrings to the ensemble. And of course you’d want to know about the lipstick on your teeth before you left the house. It’s just, those are not the first things you want noticed after all that work to surprise and amaze your husband.

With writing, your kids are risking their precious insights, words, knowledge, ideas every time they commit them to paper. Your first task, then, is to notice! Find the quirky idea, vocabulary word or fresh insight and praise it! Be impressed by the amount of writing (no matter how much is there). Engage the material with follow-up questions that show you are interested in more of their ideas (not to elicit “better” material, but to show that you really do care about the topic and are impressed with what they know about it).

Once you’ve done that, on another day you can tackle the revision needs. Here are a couple of principles to keep in mind when you go to help with revision.

1. The writer is the author and therefore has final editorial control.

That means you are offering ideas and suggestions, not giving commands or edicts.

2. Your suggestions for improvement are better framed as options to consider.

When you read along, it works better to say, “I loved this part that details the preparation of the meal. I’m wondering about the colors of the foods in this particular recipe. What are they? Do you think that might add a little more detail to the original?” Invite dialog around your suggestions and ask their opinions. You can offer to jot little notes in the margin so they don’t forget what you discussed together.

3. Ask your children for their ideas for revision.

Sometimes we assume that they have none, that they are satisfied with the writing as is. Truth is, if they get a few days away from the draft, they may find that when they come back to the draft, they have fresh energy and eyes and are interested in expanding it or enhancing it with more detail.

4. Which brings me to my most important point: Separate revision from drafting.

Never do them on the same day. Spend time enjoying and praising the draft on one day. Then let a couple days go by before revisiting the piece with revision ideas.

5. Save all editing (mechanics, punctuation, grammar, spelling, typos) for the end, once all revising is done.

Resist the temptation to correct as you go. Unless your child spontaneously corrects them upon review, you are to keep your hands in your pockets. Editing is the final step that is done after you are thoroughly finished with revising.

6. Remember: not everything has to be addressed in this paper.

Expand, enhance, correct, improve one or two things and leave the rest. The problems in this paper will magically reappear in future writing to be addressed then. We homeschool parents tend to expect perfection every time. Totally unnecessary in writing development. Allow for the growth in writing to be a journey through multiple pieces of writing, not just this one.

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4 Responses to “Reluctant Revisers”

  1. Anne says:
    December 10, 2008 at 11:51 am

    Thanks Julie. This gives me lots of ideas to work with.
    Anne

  2. JoVE says:
    December 10, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    My daughter is a reluctant reviser even when we are working in the way you suggest (which we do). She readily admits that it is because it is hard work. Freewriting feels easier.

    One thing I discovered this fall, is that you don’t have to sit down with the paper in front of you to do this. I had her read me her story. And I praised things. And later, when we were out for a walk, we had a conversation about the characters and the story. I asked questions about why certain things might be going on. Or about the back story — how did these characters end up here. We just chatted about her story in a deep way, engaging with her ideas.

    Later, I was able to suggest specific writing tasks that might improve the story. Could you write a flash-back to show how they came to be there? Could you write about a bandit attack? That kind of thing. This generated more freewritten material that she could work with to make a better story.

  3. Julie Bogart says:
    December 10, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    JoVE, fabulous advice and something we’ve done as well. If we can turn revision into a conversation, into a deeper investigation of the ideas and topics, we can move it away from the tedium of hard work (even though revision does require work!).

    Thx for sharing!

  4. Sybil says:
    December 11, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Wonderful post Julie! I love the getting ready for a party analogy! So perfect!

    Thank you!
    Sybil

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